| The Immorality of Marriage- an essay |
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posted by: newbie (reply) post date: 02.18.04 (7:01 am) DragonBait22, I take it that you are not married yet :-) Marriage is not a forced commitment. Its like a sign to publicly tell everyone that you love and trust someone and is willing to spend your whole lifetime to your significant other. you don't expect to kneel down and present your partner with a bouquet of flowers each time you want to tell your friends that you love your partner. Instead, you just tell them that you are married and they automatically know the trust and love you have for your partner. Marriage has been tainted with divorce. If all marriages were happy ones, no one would come up with the idea that marriage is immoral. Therefore, open your eyes to see the bigger picture. Its not a forced commitment. But a statement to the public saying that you love your significant other, chesih them, trust them and wants to spend an eternity with them...(or whatever the vows say :-P) posted by: newbie (reply) post date: 02.18.04 (7:02 am) chesih = cherish* posted by: DragonBait22 (reply) post date: 02.18.04 (5:46 pm) Reply to: newbie Au contraire, my dear newbie. Marriage itself is not a forced commitment- presumably you choose to marry- but it does force the commitment of love. This is what I have a problem with. If you love and trust someone, you don't need a commitment to prove you love and trust them. Furthermore, by forcing this commitment, you jeapordize the love and trust in a relationship. Marriage puts trust in question because it allows for the distinct possiblity that love may not exist in the relationship, but you are only remaining together because of an agreement. Divorce isn't even a major concern of mine, and certainly isn't the reason I question the value of marriage. It isn't even a matter of unhappy marriages (acutally, that reminds me- my parents will be (happily) celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary this weekend). I just think that true love is endangered by marriage. A statement to the public? Why do you need that? That is, if love is all that matters... posted by: DragonBait22 (reply) post date: 04.02.04 (9:27 pm) Reply to: RJ Well, I say marriage jeopardizes true love because (1) if the love is true, there is no need for a commitment, particularly a legally binding agreement, and (2) making love into a contract detracts from the actual love. Marriage may not necessarily dissolve love, but it does make it questionable and places love as secondary to the union. Thanks for your comment and feel free to elaborate. :) posted by: DragonBait22 (reply) post date: 04.02.04 (10:54 pm) Reply to: RJ Huh, you can't move to another country unless you marry someone in that country? I thought there were other ways. And if it is just a simple piece of paper, what's the point of marriage? Instead of placing the focus on the love itself, marriage makes the arrangement most important, taking away the freedom that is integral for love to be true. posted by: DragonBait22 (reply) post date: 04.05.04 (8:45 am) Reply to: RJ If it is true love, neither marriage nor remaining unmarried should alter it. But marriage binds love by making the commitment to remain together forever, when that is not necessary if the love is true. Once the committment is made, it puts love in question. Marriage is at best unnecessary, and at worst detrimental to love. I'd choose to not let a piece of paper change my view of love also, but by not bothering with the paper in the first place. :) posted by: LoriAnn aka: Laz (reply) post date: 04.22.04 (8:29 pm) Talk about a small world!!! Hello Lucid :) I see your views on amrriage / LOVe have not changed at all and they still make sense to this single never marreid yet 42 year old who has only lived with the kids father for nine years ...but never "married" him :) I agree 100% that the peice of paper does not cement "TRUST" in each other.. That should be there long before the peice of paper. Heck I've currently been dating someone for obver six years now and he always aks if I am ready to marry him and thee answer is still "No" as I feel we do not need that peice of paper to show our love for one another... Great to see You once more and defintely glad to see this blog... I shall be returning lots and have added your link to my Blog which I just started 4 days ago... http://www.geocities.com/laz614 by the way... Miss you on Pal Talk altho I really haven't even had it or any other messengers open too much :) Huggles posted by: limesnkoolaid (reply) post date: 06.29.04 (7:32 pm) have you ever wondered if perhaps all of this stuff that you write in your blogs is because you're scared to feel? atleast, that's what im getting from this stuff. i could be wrong though. so i apologize if i offend you. posted by: revdradam (reply) post date: 06.30.04 (8:18 pm) Reply to: limesnkoolaid I'll let Terra defend herself, but believe me, she is not 'scared to feel.' On the contrary, she is willing to take that risk, and have the feeling without the false security of marriage. posted by: KVKID (reply) post date: 07.29.04 (3:29 pm) I think too many people don't take marriage serously enough when they get into it. Marrage is not all love and roses. Marriage is the result of love but only when you are truely in love. Feeling in love and actually loving each other are two different things. The feeling of love is usually that happy ,fuzzy feeling that people feel and it's almost like a drug. Loving someone is loving them even when you've seen their worst. Again, I beleive marriage and it's commitment is a result of love however I don't believe everyone is meant to be married. I'm a Christian and by looking at your blogs speaking about it from a Christian view would be a waist of my time but I will say my marriage is also tied to my wife and mine faith. posted by: DragonBait22 (reply) post date: 07.31.04 (6:33 pm) Reply to: KVKID Sure, there is the aspect of marriage purely devoted to a supportive family structure, and that is commendable. However, there are other ways of creating this that do not involve disregarding love, and you cannot honestly promise to always be in love with another person- marriage is dishonest in this respect. "I'm a Christian and by looking at your blogs speaking about it from a Christian view would be a waist of my time" Then I doubt that you have spent much time looking at my blogs, otherwise you would have seen that I welcome differing views and take all opinions seriously. Just because I tend to disagree with Christian views does not mean I do not give them consideration. Thanks for your comment. :) posted by: KVKID (reply) post date: 08.01.04 (2:56 pm) Reply to: DragonBait22 I agree that you can not always be in love. I know a lot of married couples that at times don't love each other and if they weren't married they may give up on the relationship but they stick together because they are married and work through and grow from it. I didn't mean to imply that you don't consider other points of view, I just didn't feel like spending the time to type a lengthy (sp?) explaination of how my faith is tied into my marriage when I was pretty sure it wasn't going to make a difference. I guess it was my way of agreeing to disagree, sorry if I offended you. posted by: angiekruger (reply) post date: 10.22.04 (10:10 am) i can really see both sides of the fence here. i do agree that some people just arent meant to be married and some are. the biggest difference in just "staying together" and actually getting married are all the (for lack of a better word) benifits that come with making it legal. but then again if you dont make it legal, its much easier to go your seperate ways if thats what you decide to do. this is really a hot button issue right now with the "defense of marriage" act trying to go through. which in mu opinon is total bs. i think if gay people decide to get married they should get all the benifits and recognitions that go along with that just like straight people do. it doesnt harm my marriage if my boss and his husband get married. they are using the claim that marriage is defined as being "between a man and a woman" but where does it say that? in the bible. so its really a church/state issue and our constitution specifically calls for a seperation of church and state. its a civil rights issue. it wasnt long ago that people felt blacks should be allowed to vote because they were black, and women shouldnt be allowed to vote because they didnt have a penis. its the same thing. if you want to defend marriage, update the institution of marriage. my personal feelings on marriage are that it should ne more of a contract. simply because, as you pointed out, people rush into marriage now without thinking of the full responsibility of it and everything that goes with it. make it a five year contract, renewable every couple of years, with specific clauses that protect the individual assests along with those aquired together. sorry if i rambled (sp) on. :-) posted by: midsummerdawn (reply) post date: 10.23.04 (10:48 pm) I enjoyed this essay, and I agree on many points. To me legal marriage is nothing more than, well, a legal arrangement that allows you to have certain rights. I believe it is wrong for the government to deny these same rights to people who choose not to get their piece of paper. Therefore, it is my opinion that the very institution of marriage, that it is forced upon people so that they can be 'next of kin', even when they already are in their hearts, is immoral and wrong. The government does not belong in my house. |
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