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posted by: DrForbush (reply) post date: 04.03.04 (12:18 am) 1)No, I don't think that any one religion is the one true religion. I believe that almost every religion offers some positive qualities. Many religions offer discord with other religions by claiming they are the one true religion. I can’t imagine that God would be pleased that his creation of human life would result in groups of his creation fighting and killing each other because of him. 2) I'm pretty certain in my belief, because of my experience as a father creating his children. I would never favor one childs method of showing honor over another. 3) Although I worship in one faith it is because I was born into it. Being a member of this community however has provided a group of people who can share faith together. This is similar to the difference between going to school and being home schooled. Learning about religion through reading or prayer alone lacks the community aspect. Of course, the community aspect could lead to a fraternaty or even cult aspect - which could be a problem. Good luck on your study! posted by: DragonBait22 (reply) post date: 04.03.04 (7:20 pm) Reply to: DrForbush I agree wth your response to the first question and I like your explanation in the second by comparing the honor your children show to the faith you have for God. Of course, your children can honor you as their father because they know you are, in fact, their father- they can prove it. But your third point is particularly interesting to me. You acknowledge that you would likely have a different faith if you were born in a different community, so it doesn't seem to really matter what religion you belong to, what faith you believe in. I'm guessing that you feel that so long as you believe in God it doesn't matter how you express that belief. But how can you be certain that God exists given that there is no proof and there are differing definitions of God from various religions, since you say that no religion is the one true religion? posted by: DrForbush (reply) post date: 04.04.04 (8:36 am) Reply to: DragonBait22 You cannot be certain that God exists, that is why they call it faith. Personally I am not certain, but I see the universe around and I am awestruck. The fact that I exist and have free will leads me to that same awe. This same awe has lead many people through out the history to comment on this. Most religions have records of this insight by their most inspired leaders. Of course, all this inspiration doesn't mean that they are right, and they are quite often wrong - but they have insight into what the unknown is and they explain the unknown as God. Now, since there may or may not be a God that means that some of what they thought about could be right or none of what they thought about could be right. If God doesn’t exist then none of it is right. If God exists then we assume that he inspired these holy people. So, if we look at the total of human thought on this subject we may know more about what God wants, assuming he exists. posted by: cabdriver (reply) post date: 04.04.04 (10:47 am) 1) I believe that there is one true God. But not necessarily one true religion. For one, Judaism, Islam and Christianity all claim to believe in the God of Abraham. An yet all three religions have distinctive characteristics. 2) I am certain that the religion I believe in points to the one true God. 3) But would I believe in another religion other than my present one? No. To explain my point, lets lay a few foundation stones. God is not like your average Joe next door. He has powers beyond our small minds. And therefore if you piss Him off, there is pretty much nothing you can do to prevent yourself from being screwed. If you look at all the religions, Chirstianity is the only religion that does not require self-tortuing (like fasting, bowing down three times before taking three steps and repeating the action for a whole mile.) Its just a simple accept , believe and confess system. I'm not saying I want to take the easy way out. But like I said, if you piss a really powerful being, there is nothing you can do to stop Him. (Unless He does something about it). Then that brings us to the next question, does everyone piss God off? Even the Dalai Lama or the Pope at least once in their lifetime had have filthy thoughts in their minds. (come on, they are still men) So my answer is yes. If God didn't exist, it's hard to explain why drug addicts or smoker or heavy drinkers quit their self destructing habits after believing in God. How did they magically get a hold of their situation and stop their habits? Quote Matthew Perry on his drinking habit "It's like God opens a window and shines a light on your situation and you just realise that if you keep living this way there isn't gonna be any life" Anyways, I hope you find this comment an interesting one and that you will finally reach a conclusion one day where you don't need to ask bloggers what they think about God but rather you have a firm believe/theory about God (whether he exists or not) posted by: cabdriver (reply) post date: 04.04.04 (10:52 am) Oh and btw, I don't come here often so If you had a long list of rebuttals, I am not gonna further substantiate my statements. But I do hope that you can reach a conclusion one day and need not discuss the existence of God. Its either He exists or not :-) posted by: RedTigress (reply) post date: 04.05.04 (1:52 pm) 1) Do you believe that your religion is the one true religion, the only Truth? Well, that's complicated. The God that we Jews worship is the only God. Is my 'religion' the only true religion? Well, yes and no. If one is not Jewish, they don't have to be. All they have to do (according to God, not me), is observe the 7 laws persribed for non-Jews to follow, including recognizing God as the only God. Jews have 613 laws that they must follow. Not everyone should be Jewish in order to 'go to heave.' Most everyone will be rewarded in the world to come, Jew and non-Jew alike. Everyone is judged (by God!) accordingly. It's not for me or anyone else to say who's going where. We're just here to do what God wants and perfect our world. ... but that's getting into a lot of details now, isn't it? I hope that answers that one. 2) If so, what makes you so certain? Ah, that's a good question. Well, there are many things. The major one that most Talmudic schollars will bring up is the concept of mass-divine-revelation. Most religions are founded upon the word of ONE person (usually named as a prophet) and how that ONE person spoke with God. Judaism is the only religion that bases itself upon the fact that the ENTIRE assembly of Jews in the dessert (after we left Egypt) heard the voice of God on Mt. Sinai. Every single man, woman, and child saw/heard God. Not just Moses or any one person: Everyone. Yea, i think that's it for that. posted by: mblog (reply) post date: 04.06.04 (3:33 pm) My religion does not require others to follow it, nor does it urge me to convert them. It says that if they are righteous, they are doing just fine. It's not just a matter of believing in God. And there's no expectation for others to obey laws not given to them. But there is an expectation that they obey some basic laws such as not killing, raping, robbing, etc. And these are generally accepted laws by people of just about any religious background. But for those who do stray, there's nothing akin to eternal damnation. So I don't have to believe that mine is the only true religion, nor do I have to expect others to believe that mine is the only true religion. I can look at other religions and see if they are compelling to me. Personally, I don't find anything compelling about religions based in Greek or Roman mythology that have to do with demigods and that spend time trying to explain things away to justify why their own beliefs are inconsistent, but I don't want to name names here. I think any religion that expects you to study it in detail and encourages you to question things is more sensible. I can see if they are about living a better life and giving rules that make sense to me. Even if you have no religion, you still accept some sort of doctrine. You might believe in free speech and the rights of others to hold their beliefs, the rights of people to live freely and a prohibition of those things that do undue harm to others. You don't have to believe in God for that, but you can still ask yourself how that compares to communism or totalitarianism and why it works for you. So there's certainly a sound basis for one to pick a religion even if it's not the one true religion. I have studied a number of other religions, and I did not go into it thinking that there is necessarily something wrong with them at the outset. I never found one that is more compelling or would make me want to switch, but if I didn't already have one, I could see picking from one of a small handful including my own. posted by: EricSloan21 (reply) post date: 04.08.04 (3:33 pm) As a Baha'i I believe there is one God whose successive revelations of His will to humanity have been the chief civilizing force in history. The agents of this process have been the Divine Messengers whom people have seen chiefly as the founders of separate religious systems but whose common purpose has been to bring the human race to spiritual and moral maturity. Essentially, Baha'is believe that all founders of the Great Religions, including Abraham, Moses, Jesus, The Buddha, Krishna and Baha'u'llah were sent by one God for our spiritual beneifit. To use an analogy: Each Divine Messenger teaches a different class, or grade, yet taken together the Divine Messengers ( teachers) make one school. Firsrt grade is as neccessary as highschool. |
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